View Full Version : Bought a Poly Hog
gt_repair
03-11-2005, 03:38 AM
Well I broke down and bought a GT Poly Hog. WWWWOOOOOWWWWW!!
What a job. If any of you want to see a before and after CLOSE-UP of my personal truck headlight drop me a PM and I can e-mail it as long as we can not send pic's here.
I was Verry inpressed. I am hard to sell on things and I know the guys were getting tired of me calling and bending there ear but it was worth it for both of us. It does what they say it does. If I had more time to practice I would but I have two cars on a car lot tomarow already. They been waiting for it also. They are going to be my guinea pigs and they know it. For free why not on the first one.
Anyone else have the Poly Hog?
windshield doc
03-11-2005, 04:15 PM
I'm thinking about getting into scratch removal, but how would you price this out?
per job? per hour? what would the going rate even be? seems like alot more work then good old windshield repair .
repare-brise
03-13-2005, 02:19 PM
Doc
Scratch removal has grown into about 30% of my business. I charge $95 for the first hour and then$90 for each additional hour(most jobs are about 1 hour). The rreal secret is chosing a good scratch removal system. There are endless scratch polishing systems on the market(glasweld, janvi, Glass Mechanix, novus, and many others), as the name implies they are only scratch polishing systems. As an abrasive they use some form of cerium oxide powder, or suspension, a grinder or polisher, usually a felt pad, and lots of patience on your part. Depending on the time you are willing to spend they will give adequate results, but most techs give up selling the service because of the time and mess involved, and the not so great results. Enter the GT Glass Hog(and other systems using 3M Trizacs abrasives), they require a bit more learning to get distortion free results, but your efforts will be rewarded with fast, efficient work, happy customers, and less wrist fatigue on your part(send e-mails too differnt companies to get there sales brochures and video's this will give you visual proof of what I am saying, and give you an Idea of how they work). The 3M based system uses a series of 4 grades of abrasives, plus a polishing step to finish off . You select the coursest abrasive you need depending on the scratch, then go up through the remainding steps while feathering out a little wider as you go through each step. then you finish up with a polishing pad just like the other style of system, the difference is that you removed the scratch with the abrasives, and you just need to polish the haze left from the fine abrasive. The down side to the 3M based system is the cost and durability of the abrasives, and the learnig curve. The abrasive disc's last about 10-15 min each and cost between $1 and $3 per disc(if someone wants some of these disc's I am selling some at cost, between $.50 and $1.50 per disc, I ordered way to many from 3M, they have extremely high minimum order quantities) . You need to practice your technique to get wave, or distortion free results, but the efforts are worth the results. If you have any questions and would like un-biased answers e-mail me at yvan@repare-brise.net and it will be my pleasure to help you in your quest for a scratch free glass world.
Merci
Yvan
gt_repair
03-13-2005, 03:06 PM
Yvan
Why would you sell your extea discs at a cheeper price? YOu ordered them in bulk to get the discount. Now you are selling what you THINK you will not need. After you sell them off down the road and then you think you need more you will have to order more at what ever price they are at then..
Don't you do enough to justafy all the discs you have?
Is it worth keeping them? Just a Q
repare-brise
03-13-2005, 04:16 PM
Don
I am selling my discs because I have developed a better system(IMO), and will no longer use them. For someone that uses the trizacks and is satisfied with the results, well they can benifit from this opportunity. The 3M system works quite well, but IMO has a few short-comings(rapid disc wear, too much spacing between grits, final abrasive is too course) that I have addressed with my system. If you would like to know more, I invite you to e-mail me at yvan@repare-brise.net or call me at 1 450 775 0508, since I don't believe this is the place to discuss the pro's and cons of the GT system, since they are kind enough to provide this forum.
Mercij
gt_repair
03-14-2005, 03:51 AM
I was just wondering. I do not do Scratch removal, just poly restore and W/S repairs.
Maybe someone will drop you a line.
repare-brise
03-14-2005, 12:41 PM
Don
How does the poly restore work?, is is chemical based like Janvi , or an abrasive based systen lick bright solutions? How much time does it take to de a head light? Can other types of plastics be done as well?
Merci
gt_repair
03-18-2005, 02:26 PM
It is a mix of compound and a abrasive pad, felt pads and another pad that does the work. In my eyes, it is better than Brite Solutions as a result.
Call GT and pick their brain, It may be worth the time.
gt_repair
03-20-2005, 04:37 AM
:shock: :shock: I did some emergency lights this evening as a trial for the county and city police departments. I have on loan a RED, BLUE and CLEAR lens from our county fleet dept. that sevices the Sheriff's. I worked them a couple weeks a go with a differant H/L restore system but was not impressed with the colored lens, so as I mentioned before I bought a GT Poly Hog syst.. The head lights look great, and I did the colored lenses today and I am blown away. I put a peice of tape down the center fromL/R and did one side. again I am impressed with what I saw compaired to the other syst.. :shock: :shock:
I hope the City, county and maybe evern the Highway patrol.
I will be taking pics of the Emergancy lights for my scrap book for customers to see what the differance looks like.
I have a job to do for a friend that has a newer dodge PU that are shot totaly, I can not even see the inside at all. I am going to have to get a more agresive removal disc for this one. I priced him $100.00 for the pair, and he said "When do you want it". I will do them on a Sat, or Sunday. Should take me about 1.5 hr to do or faster if I get the other discs.
:idea: This Dodge I will be doing was picked up because I was at the swap meet and I found a headlight bucket that was sorta bad for a buck and my freind asked why I have a headlight bucket, So I told him what I was going to do with it. Just do half for a display
and he asked me to look at his truck.
Not bad for drawing work.
I am not pluging GT just because this is their site, I am pluging their Poly Hog because I am hard to please and I am just blown away.
If you have spare time on your hands, this may be a good add on.
Costy but it is worth it........ It took me 6 months to think about buying it
repare-brise
03-20-2005, 01:44 PM
Don
Thanks for the great description. When something works i plug it as well. What is the cost of the poly-hog? GT seems alergic to putting pricing on there site. Does the system use water at any point? How is the mess?
Merci
Yvan
gt_repair
03-20-2005, 03:47 PM
Don
Thanks for the great description. When something works i plug it as well. What is the cost of the poly-hog? GT seems alergic to putting pricing on there site. Does the system use water at any point? How is the mess?
Merci
Yvan
I paid 499. plus S/H for the Poly. It works with water in a spray bottle, just mist the lens a little to keep the cream moist. I run my buffer at 25 - 50 % of the speed to limit the splater and the last part on the buffing I start 50 % then up to full speed.
If you get on their web; http://www.gtglass.com/documents/POLYHOGmanual.pdf It will tell you what you need to do. The only thing is, using the foam pad and the felt pad is backwards. They still need to change that on the site..
When I take the pic's of the emergancy lenses I will drop you the pic's to your e-mail.
Anyone else want to see them let me know I will send them to you also..
John62
09-18-2005, 08:44 PM
We work with IPS systems, they do the job in a perfect manner.
The material price per job is pathetic, the results are good, no distortion.
We do not charge by the hour, we take on the job at a preset price.
Anyone else using this system? What do you think?
Check out www.ipsglass.com
Scotch
10-18-2005, 07:02 PM
The Janvil Plastic Restore system is not a chemical based system at all. It used abrasives to resurface the plastic surface. It does however help to replenish the plasticizers in the plastic and offers a UV protectant. I have found the system to work very fast and it does not require any power buffers or complicated tools to use.
For the price of $20.95, it has paid for itself many times over. I wish every thing in business worked this easy.
I hope this helps!
Scotch
gt_repair
10-19-2005, 02:02 AM
scotch
Next time pick another color to post. It is to damn hard on the eyes
Don D.
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